Lucid Trading
All six programmes read plan by plan on 28 July, at the $25,000 in each. Its help centre publishes fifty-seven rule articles, dated and attributed, and four of the six hold the same end-of-day loss limit at the same dollar figure in the evaluation and in the funded account. Almost nothing else is shared: LucidFlex caps five payouts at $1,000, LucidPro and LucidDirect deny any payout count, LucidDaily caps the day at $6,000 instead of the request, LucidBlack pays $750 a time. Consistency runs 0%, 20%, 40% and 60% depending on which one you bought. Two things apply to all of them — every plan ends by being "moved live", and the live article says that move is the risk team's decision; and the terms of use answer 403 to a browser.
Not enough published data to simulate this firm’s floor.
This firm publishes its floor by account size — see the cited table below.
Judged, clean of all seven hard bars, and the scorecard still came in under the bar. Nothing here is an accusation — it is a firm we would not open an account with, and the card says on which axes it fell short.
Scorecard
6Trails your live equity and never stops
A named company, but no financial regulator anywhere — or a light-touch one only
A lifetime ceiling, or a rule that can block payment
Overstates size or speed, but costs you nothing
Under a year, or too few reviews to mean anything
Each axis is scored 0–5 against a published scale. The line under each bar is the rung this firm landed on — not our summary of it, the scale entry itself.
Trustpilot
What this firm published
Everything below is quoted from a page we opened, on the date shown. The quotes are in the firm’s own language, exactly as published — never edited, never shortened, never swapped for a translation. On the Spanish edition our own rendering appears underneath each one, unquoted and marked as ours: the quotation marks on this site mean the words are the firm’s, and nothing we wrote ever wears them. Where we have not read enough to put a number on an axis, we say so instead of guessing.
2/5
Can you even pass?
Almost nobody who pays for an evaluation ever reaches a funded account, so this is the part of the product most customers actually buy. Every firm advertises its profit target; none of them advertises that target next to how much you are allowed to lose while chasing it.
3/5
Can you keep the money?
The drawdown takes the account away; the payout rules take the money. Answered by whichever of the two we can measure and is worse — they are two ways of losing the same thing, so a good half cannot pay for a bad one.
3/5
Is anyone behind it?
A named company, a market, and rules you could read before paying. These three do not substitute for one another — a company you can sue does not stop existing because the account is a simulation — so this is the average of the ones we could measure, not the worst.
How hard the test is
Not the profit target on the sales page — that target measured against the room you are given to reach it.
How much you must win to survivefor every $1 you are allowed to lose, you must make $1.32.40/8
“Account Size Profit Target Max Loss Limit Consistency % Max Size $25,000 $1,250 $1,000 50% 2 mini or 20 micros $50,000 $3,000 $2,000 50% 4 mini or 40 micros $100,000 $6,000 $3,000 50% 6 mini or 60 micros $150,000 $9,000 $4,500 50% 10 mini or 100 micros”A profit target only means something next to the room you are given to reach it. Ten per cent to make against ten to lose is a coin flip sold as an exam.
Days you have to finishThey state there is none.3/3
“One-time fee, no monthly rebilling, take as long as you need to pass”A deadline turns a test of skill into a test of whether the market happened to move during your month.
A second attempt costsa second attempt is discounted1/2
“{"id":204768,"name":"LucidFlex 25K NT_TDV","prices":{"price":"10000","regular_price":"10000","sale_price":"10000","price_range":null,"currency_code":"USD","currency_symbol":"quot;,"currency_minor_unit":2,"currency_decimal_separator":".","currency_thousand_separator":",","currency_prefix":"quot;,"currency_suffix":""}},{"id":204767,"name":"LucidFlex 25k Reset NT_TDV","prices":{"price":"6000"”A free second attempt turns one bad week into a delay instead of another invoice.
Profit target5%—
“Account Size Profit Target Max Loss Limit Consistency % Max Size $25,000 $1,250 $1,000 50% 2 mini or 20 micros $50,000 $3,000 $2,000 50% 4 mini or 40 micros $100,000 $6,000 $3,000 50% 6 mini or 60 micros $150,000 $9,000 $4,500 50% 10 mini or 100 micros”Trading days you must put in
Maximum loss
The loss limit that closes your account. Does it sit still, or does it climb behind you as you win?
What makes the loss limit riseit rises with the day's closing balanceno changewe did not read this stage1.65/3
“LucidFlex evaluation and funded accounts use an End-of-Day Drawdown (EOD Drawdown) system to calculate the Max Loss Limit (MLL).”A limit that climbs takes back the cushion you already earned.
Where the limit stops risingsomewhere above your starting balance1.50/3
“Once the account exceeds the trail, the MLL locks at the initial balance plus $100”The difference between a danger with an end date and one that never ends.
What the limit is measured againstlive equity, open trades includedno changewe did not read this stage1/2
“If your account balance reached the MLL, your account will be breached.”Decides whether a trade that dips and recovers can close an account that ended the day green.
What taking a payout does to the limitit tightens0/2
“Once you request a payout from LucidFlex, your MLL automatically adjusts to the Locked MLL Balance”Taking your money out should not leave you closer to losing the account.
Daily limitThey state there is none.no changeno change2/2
“LucidFlex evaluation accounts: $25k-$150k accounts, 50% consistency with built-in cushion, no daily loss limit, one-time fee, and a two-day pass path.”“LucidFlex funded accounts have no daily loss limit, no consistency rule, and no payout buffer. 90/10 profit split. EOD trailing drawdown. Account sizes: $25K–$150K.”“All live accounts begin with: $0 starting balance Daily payouts End-of-day drawdown No daily loss limit”A generous percentage measured on live equity is not generous — it is the same number with a trapdoor under it.
Total loss allowed4%no changeno change0.25/1
“Account Size Profit Target Max Loss Limit Consistency % Max Size $25,000 $1,250 $1,000 50% 2 mini or 20 micros $50,000 $3,000 $2,000 50% 4 mini or 40 micros $100,000 $6,000 $3,000 50% 6 mini or 60 micros $150,000 $9,000 $4,500 50% 10 mini or 100 micros”“Account Size Max Loss Limit DLL Scaling Plan Max Size $25,000 $1,000 None Yes 2 mini or 20 micros $50,000 $2,000 None Yes 4 mini or 40 micros $100,000 $3,000 None Yes 6 mini or 60 micros $150,000 $4,500 None Yes 10 mini or 100 micros”“Funded Account Size Starting Live Drawdown Max Live Contract Limit* $25,000 $1,000 2 minis or 20 micros $50,000 $2,000 4 minis or 40 micros $100,000 $3,000 6 minis or 60 micros $150,000 $4,500 10 minis or 100 micros”How much room you have. Worth little, because almost every firm offers the same.
Withdrawing
How much can leave the account, how soon, how often — and whether they can say no.
Withdrawals before the account ends5 in total0.60/3
“Number of requests per account: Traders may take up to 5 payouts from each LucidFlex account after which they will be moved live.”The cap per withdrawal times how many they allow is the real size of the account. One plan here is sold on a $200,000 banner and closes after five withdrawals of $2,100.
What else a payout changesthe day count starts over1.50/3
“Traders must earn at least the minimum required profit on 5 separate days during the payout cycle. The minimum profit on trading days reset and must be earned again after every approved payout.”The floor is not the only thing a withdrawal moves, and the rest of it is never on the same page. Position size, the consistency rule and the share you are paid all reset or shift at some firms, and a trader who checked only the drawdown finds out afterwards.
What breaking the consistency rule costsit delays the payoutThey state there is none.3/3
“However, if your largest day had exceeded 50% of your account profit, you would need to continue trading until your largest day is 50% or less.”“LucidFlex funded accounts have no daily loss limit, no consistency rule, and no payout buffer. 90/10 profit split. EOD trailing drawdown. Account sizes: $25K–$150K.”Weighted by what it costs, not by existing: reading plan by plan, no consistency rule ever closed an account — they postponed the withdrawal.
Most one withdrawal can pay you4.0% of the account, at worst1/2
“Account Size Payout Maximum $25,000 50% of Profit up to $1,000 $50,000 50% of Profit up to $2,000 $100,000 50% of Profit up to $2,500 $150,000 50% of Profit up to $3,000”$2,000 is generous on a $25K account and a joke on a $200K one, so it is measured as a share and at the worst size sold.
Does that cap rise with the accountThey state there is none.2/2
“Unlike our other prop firm funded accounts, the maximums here do not scale up with more payouts. The table above shows the payout maximums for all requests.”Days before you can ask for money · Can it refuse without giving a reason · Profit required before the first request · Fee charged to pay you
How you may trade
Can you trade the way you actually trade — around the news, over the weekend, at the size and speed you use?
Mandatory stop-lossThey do not say.no change—
we read the page that should answer this and it does not
we read the page that should answer this and it does not
Minimum time a trade must be heldThey do not say.no change—
we read the page that should answer this and it does not
we read the page that should answer this and it does not
Forced close before the weekendnothing may stay open over the weekendno change—
“All positions must be closed by 4:45 PM EST, Monday through Friday”LeverageNo such thing in this plan.no change—
“Account Size Profit Target Max Loss Limit Consistency % Max Size $25,000 $1,250 $1,000 50% 2 mini or 20 micros $50,000 $3,000 $2,000 50% 4 mini or 40 micros $100,000 $6,000 $3,000 50% 6 mini or 60 micros $150,000 $9,000 $4,500 50% 10 mini or 100 micros”“Account Size Max Loss Limit DLL Scaling Plan Max Size $25,000 $1,000 None Yes 2 mini or 20 micros $50,000 $2,000 None Yes 4 mini or 40 micros $100,000 $3,000 None Yes 6 mini or 60 micros $150,000 $4,500 None Yes 10 mini or 100 micros”Limit on position size2no change—
“Account Size Profit Target Max Loss Limit Consistency % Max Size $25,000 $1,250 $1,000 50% 2 mini or 20 micros $50,000 $3,000 $2,000 50% 4 mini or 40 micros $100,000 $6,000 $3,000 50% 6 mini or 60 micros $150,000 $9,000 $4,500 50% 10 mini or 100 micros”“Account Size Max Loss Limit DLL Scaling Plan Max Size $25,000 $1,000 None Yes 2 mini or 20 micros $50,000 $2,000 None Yes 4 mini or 40 micros $100,000 $3,000 None Yes 6 mini or 60 micros $150,000 $4,500 None Yes 10 mini or 100 micros”No score here, on purpose. The six axes above ask whether the firm can take your money or refuse to pay it. These rules ask something else — whether you can trade your way — and the right weight depends on who is reading: a minimum holding time decides the account for a scalper and is invisible to anyone else, while the weekend rule is the reverse. A single number would be wrong for half of you, and would look decided. The firm’s own sentences are here; the judgement is yours.
How it grows
What makes the account get bigger, how big it can get, and whether the path ends at a real market or at a larger simulation.
What makes the account growprofit—
“The scaling plan controls how much of your max size is available to trade based on the simulated profits in your account.”How large it can getNo such thing in this plan.—
“The scaling plan controls how much of your max size is available to trade based on the simulated profits in your account.”Where the path endsat a real market—
“Number of requests per account: Traders may take up to 5 payouts from each LucidFlex account after which they will be moved live.”One of these questions is scored and it is not here. “Does the cap rise with the account” sits on the cash axis, next to the cap itself, because it has a right answer: a bigger account that pays the same cheque has handed you a larger number and the same money. The three below are different. A two-million ceiling is the whole point of the product for one reader and irrelevant to someone who wants one clean payout, so the firm’s sentences are here and the weight is yours.
How hard the test is
Not the profit target on the sales page — that target measured against the room you are given to reach it.
How much you must win to survivefor every $1 you are allowed to lose, you must make $1.32.40/8
“Account Size Profit Target Max Loss Limit Daily Loss Limit Max Size $25,000 $1,250 $1,000 None 2 mini or 20 micros $50,000 $3,000 $2,000 $1,200 4 mini or 40 micros $100,000 $6000 $3,000 $1,800 6 mini or 60 micros $150,000 $9,000 $4,500 $2,700 10 mini or 100 micros”A profit target only means something next to the room you are given to reach it. Ten per cent to make against ten to lose is a coin flip sold as an exam.
Days you have to finishThey state there is none.3/3
“One-time fee, no monthly rebilling, take as long as you need to pass”A deadline turns a test of skill into a test of whether the market happened to move during your month.
A second attempt costsa second attempt is discounted1/2
“{"id":56551,"name":"Lucid 25k Pro EVAL Reset NT_TDV","prices":{"price":"8100","regular_price":"8100","sale_price":"8100","price_range":null,"currency_code":"USD","currency_symbol":"quot;,"currency_minor_unit":2,"currency_decimal_separator":".","currency_thousand_separator":",","currency_prefix":"quot;,"currency_suffix":""}},{"id":56549,"name":"LucidX 25K Reset","prices":{"price":"7125","regular_price":"7125","sale_price":"7125","price_range":null,"currency_code":"USD","currency_symbol":"quot;,"currency_minor_unit":2,"currency_decimal_separator":".","currency_thousand_separator":",","currency_prefix":"quot;,"currency_suffix":""}},{"id":56547,"name":"LucidReset 25k Rithmic","prices":{"price":"8100","regular_price":"8100","sale_price":"8100","price_range":null,"currency_code":"USD","currency_symbol":"quot;,"currency_minor_unit":2,"currency_decimal_separator":".","currency_thousand_separator":",","currency_prefix":"quot;,"currency_suffix":""}},{"id":56546,"name":"LucidPro EVAL 25K NT_TDV","prices":{"price":"13500"”A free second attempt turns one bad week into a delay instead of another invoice.
Profit target5%—
“Account Size Profit Target Max Loss Limit Daily Loss Limit Max Size $25,000 $1,250 $1,000 None 2 mini or 20 micros $50,000 $3,000 $2,000 $1,200 4 mini or 40 micros $100,000 $6000 $3,000 $1,800 6 mini or 60 micros $150,000 $9,000 $4,500 $2,700 10 mini or 100 micros”Trading days you must put in
Maximum loss
The loss limit that closes your account. Does it sit still, or does it climb behind you as you win?
What makes the loss limit riseit rises with the day's closing balanceno change1.65/3
“LucidPro evaluation and funded accounts use an End-of-Day Drawdown (EOD Drawdown) system to calculate the Max Loss Limit (MLL).”A limit that climbs takes back the cushion you already earned.
Where the limit stops risingsomewhere above your starting balance1.50/3
“Once the account exceeds the trail, the MLL locks at the initial balance plus $100”The difference between a danger with an end date and one that never ends.
What the limit is measured againstlive equity, open trades includedno change1/2
“If your account balance reached the MLL, your account will be breached.”Decides whether a trade that dips and recovers can close an account that ended the day green.
What taking a payout does to the limitThey do not say.0/2
we read the page that should answer this and it does not
Taking your money out should not leave you closer to losing the account.
Daily limitThey state there is none.no change2/2
“LucidPro Evaluation accounts use a Fixed DLL that does not change over time. Account Size Fixed DLL Amount $25,000 None $50,000 $1,200 $100,000 $1,800 $150,000 $2,700”“Account Size Max Loss Limit Fixed DLL Scaling DLL Max Size $25,000 $1,000 None None 2 mini or 20 micros $50,000 $2,000 $1,200 60% of Peak EOD Balance 4 mini or 40 micros $100,000 $3,000 $1,800 60% of Peak EOD Balance 6 mini or 60 micros $150,000 $4,500 $2,700 60% of Peak EOD Balance 10 mini or 100 micros”A generous percentage measured on live equity is not generous — it is the same number with a trapdoor under it.
Total loss allowed4%no change0.25/1
“Account Size Profit Target Max Loss Limit Daily Loss Limit Max Size $25,000 $1,250 $1,000 None 2 mini or 20 micros $50,000 $3,000 $2,000 $1,200 4 mini or 40 micros $100,000 $6000 $3,000 $1,800 6 mini or 60 micros $150,000 $9,000 $4,500 $2,700 10 mini or 100 micros”“Account Size Max Loss Limit Fixed DLL Scaling DLL Max Size $25,000 $1,000 None None 2 mini or 20 micros $50,000 $2,000 $1,200 60% of Peak EOD Balance 4 mini or 40 micros $100,000 $3,000 $1,800 60% of Peak EOD Balance 6 mini or 60 micros $150,000 $4,500 $2,700 60% of Peak EOD Balance 10 mini or 100 micros”How much room you have. Worth little, because almost every firm offers the same.
Withdrawing
How much can leave the account, how soon, how often — and whether they can say no.
Withdrawals before the account endsThey state there is none.3/3
“No scaling plan, access to max contract size immediately No simulated payout caps”The cap per withdrawal times how many they allow is the real size of the account. One plan here is sold on a $200,000 banner and closes after five withdrawals of $2,100.
What else a payout changesthe consistency calculation starts over · the profit you must make starts over0.75/3
“All of the following requirements must be met to qualify for a payout. These conditions reset after every approved payout.”The floor is not the only thing a withdrawal moves, and the rest of it is never on the same page. Position size, the consistency rule and the share you are paid all reset or shift at some firms, and a trader who checked only the drawdown finds out afterwards.
What breaking the consistency rule costsThey state there is none.it delays the payout2.10/3
“In our LucidPro funded accounts you must meet a Consistency Percentage of 40% to be eligible to request a payout.”“However, if your largest day had exceeded 40% of your Account Profit, you would need to continue trading until your largest day is below 40%.”Weighted by what it costs, not by existing: reading plan by plan, no consistency rule ever closed an account — they postponed the withdrawal.
Most one withdrawal can pay youThey do not say.0/2
we read the page that should answer this and it does not
$2,000 is generous on a $25K account and a joke on a $200K one, so it is measured as a share and at the worst size sold.
Does that cap rise with the accountThey do not say.0/2
we read the page that should answer this and it does not
Profit required before the first request1%1/1
“Account Size Minimum Profit Goal $25,000 $250 $50,000 $500 $100,000 $750 $150,000 $1,000”How much you have to make before you can touch anything.
Days before you can ask for money · Can it refuse without giving a reason · Fee charged to pay you
How you may trade
Can you trade the way you actually trade — around the news, over the weekend, at the size and speed you use?
Mandatory stop-lossThey do not say.no change—
we read the page that should answer this and it does not
we read the page that should answer this and it does not
Minimum time a trade must be heldThey do not say.no change—
we read the page that should answer this and it does not
we read the page that should answer this and it does not
Forced close before the weekendnothing may stay open over the weekendno change—
“All positions must be closed by 4:45 PM EST, Monday through Friday”LeverageNo such thing in this plan.no change—
“Account Size Profit Target Max Loss Limit Daily Loss Limit Max Size $25,000 $1,250 $1,000 None 2 mini or 20 micros $50,000 $3,000 $2,000 $1,200 4 mini or 40 micros $100,000 $6000 $3,000 $1,800 6 mini or 60 micros $150,000 $9,000 $4,500 $2,700 10 mini or 100 micros”“Account Size Max Loss Limit Fixed DLL Scaling DLL Max Size $25,000 $1,000 None None 2 mini or 20 micros $50,000 $2,000 $1,200 60% of Peak EOD Balance 4 mini or 40 micros $100,000 $3,000 $1,800 60% of Peak EOD Balance 6 mini or 60 micros $150,000 $4,500 $2,700 60% of Peak EOD Balance 10 mini or 100 micros”Limit on position size2no change—
“Account Size Profit Target Max Loss Limit Daily Loss Limit Max Size $25,000 $1,250 $1,000 None 2 mini or 20 micros $50,000 $3,000 $2,000 $1,200 4 mini or 40 micros $100,000 $6000 $3,000 $1,800 6 mini or 60 micros $150,000 $9,000 $4,500 $2,700 10 mini or 100 micros”“Account Size Max Loss Limit Fixed DLL Scaling DLL Max Size $25,000 $1,000 None None 2 mini or 20 micros $50,000 $2,000 $1,200 60% of Peak EOD Balance 4 mini or 40 micros $100,000 $3,000 $1,800 60% of Peak EOD Balance 6 mini or 60 micros $150,000 $4,500 $2,700 60% of Peak EOD Balance 10 mini or 100 micros”No score here, on purpose. The six axes above ask whether the firm can take your money or refuse to pay it. These rules ask something else — whether you can trade your way — and the right weight depends on who is reading: a minimum holding time decides the account for a scalper and is invisible to anyone else, while the weekend rule is the reverse. A single number would be wrong for half of you, and would look decided. The firm’s own sentences are here; the judgement is yours.
How it grows
What makes the account get bigger, how big it can get, and whether the path ends at a real market or at a larger simulation.
What makes the account growThey state there is none.—
“No scaling plan, access to max contract size immediately No simulated payout caps”How large it can getNo such thing in this plan.—
“No scaling plan, access to max contract size immediately No simulated payout caps”Where the path endsat a real market—
“The LucidPro funded account is a simulated account where traders build simulated capital to earn payouts and potentially be moved to live markets.”One of these questions is scored and it is not here. “Does the cap rise with the account” sits on the cash axis, next to the cap itself, because it has a right answer: a bigger account that pays the same cheque has handed you a larger number and the same money. The three below are different. A two-million ceiling is the whole point of the product for one reader and irrelevant to someone who wants one clean payout, so the firm’s sentences are here and the weight is yours.
How hard the test is
we did not read enough to sayNot the profit target on the sales page — that target measured against the room you are given to reach it.
A second attempt costsNo such thing in this plan.—
“The LucidDirect is a simulated straight-to-funded account which does not have an evaluation phase.”A free second attempt turns one bad week into a delay instead of another invoice.
Below 60% read we publish no number at all, because a grade computed from two facts out of six is not a lenient grade — it is a different measurement wearing the same label.
How much you must win to survive · Profit target · Days you have to finish · Trading days you must put in
Maximum loss
The loss limit that closes your account. Does it sit still, or does it climb behind you as you win?
What makes the loss limit riseit rises with the day's closing balance1.65/3
“LucidDirect funded accounts use an End-of-Day Drawdown (EOD Drawdown) system to calculate the Max Loss Limit (MLL).”A limit that climbs takes back the cushion you already earned.
Where the limit stops risingsomewhere above your starting balance1.50/3
“Once the account exceeds the trail, the MLL locks at the initial balance plus $100”The difference between a danger with an end date and one that never ends.
What the limit is measured againstlive equity, open trades included1/2
“If your account balance reached the MLL, your account will be breached.”Decides whether a trade that dips and recovers can close an account that ended the day green.
Daily limitThey state there is none.2/2
“Account Size Fixed DLL Initial Trail Balance $25,000 None None $50,000 $1,200 $52,100 $100,000 $2,100 $103,600 $150,000 $3,000 $155,100”A generous percentage measured on live equity is not generous — it is the same number with a trapdoor under it.
Total loss allowed4%0.25/1
“Account Size Max Loss Limit Fixed DLL Scaling DLL Max Size $25,000 $1,000 None None 2 mini or 20 micros $50,000 $2,000 $1,200 60% of Peak EOD Balance 4 mini or 40 micros $100,000 $3,500 $2,100 60% of Peak EOD Balance 6 mini or 60 micros $150,000 $5,000 $3,000 60% of Peak EOD Balance 10 mini or 100 micros”How much room you have. Worth little, because almost every firm offers the same.
What taking a payout does to the limit
Withdrawing
How much can leave the account, how soon, how often — and whether they can say no.
Withdrawals before the account endsThey state there is none.3/3
“No scaling plan, access to max contract size immediately No simulated payout caps”The cap per withdrawal times how many they allow is the real size of the account. One plan here is sold on a $200,000 banner and closes after five withdrawals of $2,100.
What else a payout changesthe consistency calculation starts over · the profit you must make starts over0.75/3
“All of the following requirements must be met to qualify for a payout. These conditions reset after every approved payout.”The floor is not the only thing a withdrawal moves, and the rest of it is never on the same page. Position size, the consistency rule and the share you are paid all reset or shift at some firms, and a trader who checked only the drawdown finds out afterwards.
What breaking the consistency rule costsit delays the payout2.10/3
“However, if your largest day had exceeded 20% of your Account Profit, you would need to continue trading until your largest day is below 20%.”Weighted by what it costs, not by existing: reading plan by plan, no consistency rule ever closed an account — they postponed the withdrawal.
Most one withdrawal can pay you4.0% of the account, at worst1/2
“Account Size Payouts 1-3 Payouts 4-5 $25,000 $1,000 $1,000 $50,000 $2,000 $2,500 $100,000 $2,500 $3,000 $150,000 $3,000 $3,500”$2,000 is generous on a $25K account and a joke on a $200K one, so it is measured as a share and at the worst size sold.
Does that cap rise with the accountThey state there is none.2/2
“Account Size Payouts 1-3 Payouts 4-5 $25,000 $1,000 $1,000 $50,000 $2,000 $2,500 $100,000 $2,500 $3,000 $150,000 $3,000 $3,500”Profit required before the first request6%0.70/1
“Account Size Profit Goal 1 Profit Goal 2+ $25,000 $1,500 $1,250 $50,000 $3,000 $2,500 $100,000 $6,000 $3,500 $150,000 $9,000 $4,500”How much you have to make before you can touch anything.
Days before you can ask for money · Can it refuse without giving a reason · Fee charged to pay you
How you may trade
Can you trade the way you actually trade — around the news, over the weekend, at the size and speed you use?
Mandatory stop-lossThey do not say.—
we read the page that should answer this and it does not
Minimum time a trade must be heldThey do not say.—
we read the page that should answer this and it does not
Forced close before the weekendnothing may stay open over the weekend—
“All positions must be closed by 4:45 PM EST, Monday through Friday”LeverageNo such thing in this plan.—
“Account Size Max Loss Limit Fixed DLL Scaling DLL Max Size $25,000 $1,000 None None 2 mini or 20 micros $50,000 $2,000 $1,200 60% of Peak EOD Balance 4 mini or 40 micros $100,000 $3,500 $2,100 60% of Peak EOD Balance 6 mini or 60 micros $150,000 $5,000 $3,000 60% of Peak EOD Balance 10 mini or 100 micros”Limit on position size2—
“Account Size Max Loss Limit Fixed DLL Scaling DLL Max Size $25,000 $1,000 None None 2 mini or 20 micros $50,000 $2,000 $1,200 60% of Peak EOD Balance 4 mini or 40 micros $100,000 $3,500 $2,100 60% of Peak EOD Balance 6 mini or 60 micros $150,000 $5,000 $3,000 60% of Peak EOD Balance 10 mini or 100 micros”No score here, on purpose. The six axes above ask whether the firm can take your money or refuse to pay it. These rules ask something else — whether you can trade your way — and the right weight depends on who is reading: a minimum holding time decides the account for a scalper and is invisible to anyone else, while the weekend rule is the reverse. A single number would be wrong for half of you, and would look decided. The firm’s own sentences are here; the judgement is yours.
How it grows
What makes the account get bigger, how big it can get, and whether the path ends at a real market or at a larger simulation.
What makes the account growThey state there is none.—
“No scaling plan, access to max contract size immediately No simulated payout caps”How large it can getNo such thing in this plan.—
“No scaling plan, access to max contract size immediately No simulated payout caps”Where the path endsat a real market—
“When you purchase a LucidDirect account, you start building simulated capital to earn payouts immediately and work towards being moved live.”One of these questions is scored and it is not here. “Does the cap rise with the account” sits on the cash axis, next to the cap itself, because it has a right answer: a bigger account that pays the same cheque has handed you a larger number and the same money. The three below are different. A two-million ceiling is the whole point of the product for one reader and irrelevant to someone who wants one clean payout, so the firm’s sentences are here and the weight is yours.
How hard the test is
Not the profit target on the sales page — that target measured against the room you are given to reach it.
How much you must win to survivefor every $1 you are allowed to lose, you must make $1.32.40/8
“Account Size Profit Target Max Loss Limit Consistency % Max Size $25,000 $1,250 $1,000 50% 2 mini or 20 micros $50,000 $3,000 $2,000 50% 4 mini or 40 micros $100,000 $6,000 $3,000 50% 6 mini or 60 micros $150,000 $9,000 $4,500 50% 10 mini or 100 micros”A profit target only means something next to the room you are given to reach it. Ten per cent to make against ten to lose is a coin flip sold as an exam.
Days you have to finishThey state there is none.3/3
“One-time fee, no monthly rebilling, take as long as you need to pass”A deadline turns a test of skill into a test of whether the market happened to move during your month.
Profit target5%—
“Account Size Profit Target Max Loss Limit Consistency % Max Size $25,000 $1,250 $1,000 50% 2 mini or 20 micros $50,000 $3,000 $2,000 50% 4 mini or 40 micros $100,000 $6,000 $3,000 50% 6 mini or 60 micros $150,000 $9,000 $4,500 50% 10 mini or 100 micros”Trading days you must put in · A second attempt costs
Maximum loss
The loss limit that closes your account. Does it sit still, or does it climb behind you as you win?
What makes the loss limit riseit rises tick by tick, while you tradeno change0.75/3
“LucidDaily evaluation accounts may have an End-of-Day drawdown or an Intraday drawdown depending on which option you select at check out. The LucidDaily funded accounts always use an Intraday drawdown.”A limit that climbs takes back the cushion you already earned.
Where the limit stops risingsomewhere above your starting balance1.50/3
“Once the account exceeds the trail, the MLL locks at the initial balance plus $100”The difference between a danger with an end date and one that never ends.
What the limit is measured againstlive equity, open trades includedno change1/2
“If your account balance reached the MLL, your account will be breached.”Decides whether a trade that dips and recovers can close an account that ended the day green.
What taking a payout does to the limitThey do not say.0/2
we read the page that should answer this and it does not
Taking your money out should not leave you closer to losing the account.
Daily limit2.4%, measured on live equity, open trades includedno change0.30/2
“LucidDaily Evaluation accounts use a Fixed DLL that does not change over time. Account Size Fixed DLL Amount $25,000 $600 $50,000 $1,200 $100,000 $1,800 $150,000 $2,700”“LucidDaily Funded accounts use the same Fixed DLL values used in the evaluation. Account Size Fixed DLL Amount $25,000 $600 $50,000 $1,200 $100,000 $1,800 $150,000 $2,700”A generous percentage measured on live equity is not generous — it is the same number with a trapdoor under it.
Total loss allowed4%no change0.25/1
“Account Size Profit Target Max Loss Limit Consistency % Max Size $25,000 $1,250 $1,000 50% 2 mini or 20 micros $50,000 $3,000 $2,000 50% 4 mini or 40 micros $100,000 $6,000 $3,000 50% 6 mini or 60 micros $150,000 $9,000 $4,500 50% 10 mini or 100 micros”“Account Size Max Loss Limit Daily Payouts Drawdown Max Size $25,000 $1,000 Yes Intraday 2 mini or 20 micros $50,000 $2,000 Yes Intraday 4 mini or 40 micros $100,000 $3,000 Yes Intraday 6 mini or 60 micros $150,000 $4,500 Yes Intraday 10 mini or 100 micros”How much room you have. Worth little, because almost every firm offers the same.
Withdrawing
How much can leave the account, how soon, how often — and whether they can say no.
Withdrawals before the account endsThey state there is none.3/3
“LucidDaily differs from our other plans in that it doesn't follow a strict payout cap per request structure. Instead, there is a maximum amount of sim profit that can be earned in a day. If you meet or exceed the daily amount you are automatically moved live.”The cap per withdrawal times how many they allow is the real size of the account. One plan here is sold on a $200,000 banner and closes after five withdrawals of $2,100.
What else a payout changesthe profit you must make starts over0.75/3
“Traders must have positive net profit (even just $1) between each payout request in order to request a payout.”The floor is not the only thing a withdrawal moves, and the rest of it is never on the same page. Position size, the consistency rule and the share you are paid all reset or shift at some firms, and a trader who checked only the drawdown finds out afterwards.
What breaking the consistency rule costsit delays the payoutThey state there is none.3/3
“However, if your largest day had exceeded 50% of your account profit, you would need to continue trading until your largest day is 50% or less.”“There is no Consistency Percentage on LucidDaily funded accounts”Weighted by what it costs, not by existing: reading plan by plan, no consistency rule ever closed an account — they postponed the withdrawal.
Most one withdrawal can pay youThey state there is none.2/2
“LucidDaily differs from our other plans in that it doesn't follow a strict payout cap per request structure. Instead, there is a maximum amount of sim profit that can be earned in a day. If you meet or exceed the daily amount you are automatically moved live.”$2,000 is generous on a $25K account and a joke on a $200K one, so it is measured as a share and at the worst size sold.
Does that cap rise with the accountNo such thing in this plan.—
“LucidDaily differs from our other plans in that it doesn't follow a strict payout cap per request structure. Instead, there is a maximum amount of sim profit that can be earned in a day. If you meet or exceed the daily amount you are automatically moved live.”Days before you can ask for money · Can it refuse without giving a reason · Profit required before the first request · Fee charged to pay you
How you may trade
Can you trade the way you actually trade — around the news, over the weekend, at the size and speed you use?
Restriction around the newswe did not read this stageyou must be flat through it—
“Trading red folder news in a LucidDaily funded account is not permitted and is a hard breach. You must be flat from 1 minute before through 1 minute after the news event.”Mandatory stop-lossThey do not say.no change—
we read the page that should answer this and it does not
we read the page that should answer this and it does not
Minimum time a trade must be heldThey do not say.no change—
we read the page that should answer this and it does not
we read the page that should answer this and it does not
Forced close before the weekendnothing may stay open over the weekendno change—
“All positions must be closed by 4:45 PM EST, Monday through Friday”LeverageNo such thing in this plan.no change—
“Account Size Profit Target Max Loss Limit Consistency % Max Size $25,000 $1,250 $1,000 50% 2 mini or 20 micros $50,000 $3,000 $2,000 50% 4 mini or 40 micros $100,000 $6,000 $3,000 50% 6 mini or 60 micros $150,000 $9,000 $4,500 50% 10 mini or 100 micros”“Account Size Max Loss Limit Daily Payouts Drawdown Max Size $25,000 $1,000 Yes Intraday 2 mini or 20 micros $50,000 $2,000 Yes Intraday 4 mini or 40 micros $100,000 $3,000 Yes Intraday 6 mini or 60 micros $150,000 $4,500 Yes Intraday 10 mini or 100 micros”Limit on position size2no change—
“Account Size Profit Target Max Loss Limit Consistency % Max Size $25,000 $1,250 $1,000 50% 2 mini or 20 micros $50,000 $3,000 $2,000 50% 4 mini or 40 micros $100,000 $6,000 $3,000 50% 6 mini or 60 micros $150,000 $9,000 $4,500 50% 10 mini or 100 micros”“Account Size Max Loss Limit Daily Payouts Drawdown Max Size $25,000 $1,000 Yes Intraday 2 mini or 20 micros $50,000 $2,000 Yes Intraday 4 mini or 40 micros $100,000 $3,000 Yes Intraday 6 mini or 60 micros $150,000 $4,500 Yes Intraday 10 mini or 100 micros”No score here, on purpose. The six axes above ask whether the firm can take your money or refuse to pay it. These rules ask something else — whether you can trade your way — and the right weight depends on who is reading: a minimum holding time decides the account for a scalper and is invisible to anyone else, while the weekend rule is the reverse. A single number would be wrong for half of you, and would look decided. The firm’s own sentences are here; the judgement is yours.
How it grows
What makes the account get bigger, how big it can get, and whether the path ends at a real market or at a larger simulation.
What makes the account growThey do not say.—
we read the page that should answer this and it does not
How large it can getThey do not say.—
we read the page that should answer this and it does not
Where the path endsat a real market—
“LucidDaily differs from our other plans in that it doesn't follow a strict payout cap per request structure. Instead, there is a maximum amount of sim profit that can be earned in a day. If you meet or exceed the daily amount you are automatically moved live.”One of these questions is scored and it is not here. “Does the cap rise with the account” sits on the cash axis, next to the cap itself, because it has a right answer: a bigger account that pays the same cheque has handed you a larger number and the same money. The three below are different. A two-million ceiling is the whole point of the product for one reader and irrelevant to someone who wants one clean payout, so the firm’s sentences are here and the weight is yours.
How hard the test is
Not the profit target on the sales page — that target measured against the room you are given to reach it.
How much you must win to survivefor every $1 you are allowed to lose, you must make $1.32.40/8
“Account Size Profit Target Max Loss Limit Consistency Trading Days $25,000 $1,250 $1,000 40% 5 $50,000 $3,000 $2,000 40% 5 $100,000 $6,000 $3,000 40% 5 $150,000 $9,000 $4,500 40% 5”A profit target only means something next to the room you are given to reach it. Ten per cent to make against ten to lose is a coin flip sold as an exam.
Trading days you must put in5 days1.60/2
“Account Size Profit Target Max Loss Limit Consistency Trading Days $25,000 $1,250 $1,000 40% 5 $50,000 $3,000 $2,000 40% 5 $100,000 $6,000 $3,000 40% 5 $150,000 $9,000 $4,500 40% 5”Cuts both ways: it costs you time, and it also stops an account passing on one lucky afternoon you could never repeat.
A second attempt costsyou pay full price again0/2
“No discounts are offered on LucidMaxx evaluations The listed price is the final price paid”A free second attempt turns one bad week into a delay instead of another invoice.
Profit target5%—
“Account Size Profit Target Max Loss Limit Consistency Trading Days $25,000 $1,250 $1,000 40% 5 $50,000 $3,000 $2,000 40% 5 $100,000 $6,000 $3,000 40% 5 $150,000 $9,000 $4,500 40% 5”Days you have to finish
Maximum loss
we did not read enough to sayThe loss limit that closes your account. Does it sit still, or does it climb behind you as you win?
What makes the loss limit risewe did not read this stageit rises with the day's closing balance1.65/3
“Daily payouts No payout caps Up to 5 accounts No DLL (No Daily Loss Limit) End-of-day drawdown Instant live capital”A limit that climbs takes back the cushion you already earned.
Daily limitwe did not read this stageThey state there is none.2/2
“Daily payouts No payout caps Up to 5 accounts No DLL (No Daily Loss Limit) End-of-day drawdown Instant live capital”A generous percentage measured on live equity is not generous — it is the same number with a trapdoor under it.
Total loss allowed4%we did not read this stage0.25/1
“Account Size Profit Target Max Loss Limit Consistency Trading Days $25,000 $1,250 $1,000 40% 5 $50,000 $3,000 $2,000 40% 5 $100,000 $6,000 $3,000 40% 5 $150,000 $9,000 $4,500 40% 5”How much room you have. Worth little, because almost every firm offers the same.
Below 60% read we publish no number at all, because a grade computed from two facts out of six is not a lenient grade — it is a different measurement wearing the same label.
What the limit is measured against · Where the limit stops rising · What taking a payout does to the limit
Withdrawing
How much can leave the account, how soon, how often — and whether they can say no.
Withdrawals before the account endsThey state there is none.3/3
“Daily payouts No payout caps Up to 5 accounts No DLL (No Daily Loss Limit) End-of-day drawdown Instant live capital”The cap per withdrawal times how many they allow is the real size of the account. One plan here is sold on a $200,000 banner and closes after five withdrawals of $2,100.
What else a payout changesThey state there is none.3/3
“There are no profit minimums once live. Traders may request payouts daily.”The floor is not the only thing a withdrawal moves, and the rest of it is never on the same page. Position size, the consistency rule and the share you are paid all reset or shift at some firms, and a trader who checked only the drawdown finds out afterwards.
What breaking the consistency rule costsit delays the payout2.10/3
“Account Size Profit Target Max Loss Limit Consistency Trading Days $25,000 $1,250 $1,000 40% 5 $50,000 $3,000 $2,000 40% 5 $100,000 $6,000 $3,000 40% 5 $150,000 $9,000 $4,500 40% 5”Weighted by what it costs, not by existing: reading plan by plan, no consistency rule ever closed an account — they postponed the withdrawal.
Most one withdrawal can pay youThey state there is none.2/2
“Daily payouts No payout caps Up to 5 accounts No DLL (No Daily Loss Limit) End-of-day drawdown Instant live capital”$2,000 is generous on a $25K account and a joke on a $200K one, so it is measured as a share and at the worst size sold.
Does that cap rise with the accountNo such thing in this plan.—
“Receive access to daily, uncapped payouts and instant live capital”Profit required before the first requestThey state there is none.1/1
“There are no profit minimums once live. Traders may request payouts daily.”How much you have to make before you can touch anything.
Days before you can ask for money · Can it refuse without giving a reason · Fee charged to pay you
How you may trade
Can you trade the way you actually trade — around the news, over the weekend, at the size and speed you use?
Mandatory stop-lossThey do not say.—
we read the page that should answer this and it does not
Minimum time a trade must be heldThey do not say.—
we read the page that should answer this and it does not
Forced close before the weekendnothing may stay open over the weekend—
“All positions must be closed by 4:45 PM EST, Monday through Friday”No score here, on purpose. The six axes above ask whether the firm can take your money or refuse to pay it. These rules ask something else — whether you can trade your way — and the right weight depends on who is reading: a minimum holding time decides the account for a scalper and is invisible to anyone else, while the weekend rule is the reverse. A single number would be wrong for half of you, and would look decided. The firm’s own sentences are here; the judgement is yours.
How it grows
What makes the account get bigger, how big it can get, and whether the path ends at a real market or at a larger simulation.
What makes the account growprofit—
“The scaling plan for Live accounts controls how much of your max size is available to trade based on the profits in your account.”How large it can getNo such thing in this plan.—
“The scaling plan for Live accounts controls how much of your max size is available to trade based on the profits in your account.”Where the path endsat a real market—
“Does LucidMaxx use real capital? Yes. LucidMaxx accounts trade live capital from the moment the evaluation is passed.”One of these questions is scored and it is not here. “Does the cap rise with the account” sits on the cash axis, next to the cap itself, because it has a right answer: a bigger account that pays the same cheque has handed you a larger number and the same money. The three below are different. A two-million ceiling is the whole point of the product for one reader and irrelevant to someone who wants one clean payout, so the firm’s sentences are here and the weight is yours.
How hard the test is
Not the profit target on the sales page — that target measured against the room you are given to reach it.
How much you must win to survivefor every $1 you are allowed to lose, you must make $1.32.40/8
“Account Size Profit Target Max Loss Limit Consistency % Max Size $25,000 $1,250 $1,000 60% 2 mini or 20 micros $50,000 $3,000 $2,000 60% 4 mini or 40 micros $100,000 $6000 $3,000 60% 6 mini or 60 micros”A profit target only means something next to the room you are given to reach it. Ten per cent to make against ten to lose is a coin flip sold as an exam.
Days you have to finishThey state there is none.3/3
“One-time fee, no monthly rebilling, take as long as you need to pass”A deadline turns a test of skill into a test of whether the market happened to move during your month.
A second attempt costsa second attempt is discounted1/2
“{"id":509413,"name":"LucidBlack 25k Reset NT_TDV","prices":{"price":"7650","regular_price":"8500","sale_price":"7650","price_range":null,"currency_code":"USD","currency_symbol":"quot;,"currency_minor_unit":2,"currency_decimal_separator":".","currency_thousand_separator":",","currency_prefix":"quot;,"currency_suffix":""}},{"id":509412,"name":"LucidBlack 25K NT_TDV","prices":{"price":"13000"”A free second attempt turns one bad week into a delay instead of another invoice.
Profit target5%—
“Account Size Profit Target Max Loss Limit Consistency % Max Size $25,000 $1,250 $1,000 60% 2 mini or 20 micros $50,000 $3,000 $2,000 60% 4 mini or 40 micros $100,000 $6000 $3,000 60% 6 mini or 60 micros”Trading days you must put in
Maximum loss
The loss limit that closes your account. Does it sit still, or does it climb behind you as you win?
What makes the loss limit riseit rises with the day's closing balanceno change1.65/3
“LucidBlack evaluation and funded accounts use an End-of-Day Drawdown (EOD Drawdown) system to calculate the Max Loss Limit (MLL).”A limit that climbs takes back the cushion you already earned.
Where the limit stops risingsomewhere above your starting balance1.50/3
“Once the account exceeds the trail, the MLL locks at the initial balance plus $100”The difference between a danger with an end date and one that never ends.
What the limit is measured againstlive equity, open trades includedno change1/2
“If your account balance reached the MLL, your account will be breached.”Decides whether a trade that dips and recovers can close an account that ended the day green.
What taking a payout does to the limitThey do not say.0/2
we read the page that should answer this and it does not
Taking your money out should not leave you closer to losing the account.
Daily limitThey state there is none.no change2/2
“There is no DLL on LucidBlack evaluation accounts”“There is no DLL on LucidBlack funded accounts There are no trading days requirements on LucidBlack”A generous percentage measured on live equity is not generous — it is the same number with a trapdoor under it.
Total loss allowed4%no change0.25/1
“Account Size Profit Target Max Loss Limit Consistency % Max Size $25,000 $1,250 $1,000 60% 2 mini or 20 micros $50,000 $3,000 $2,000 60% 4 mini or 40 micros $100,000 $6000 $3,000 60% 6 mini or 60 micros”“Account Size Max Loss Limit Consistency % Scaling Plan Max Size $25,000 $1,000 40% Yes 2 mini or 20 micros $50,000 $2,000 40% Yes 4 mini or 40 micros $100,000 $3,000 40% Yes 6 mini or 60 micros”How much room you have. Worth little, because almost every firm offers the same.
Withdrawing
we did not read enough to sayHow much can leave the account, how soon, how often — and whether they can say no.
What else a payout changesthe consistency calculation starts over · the profit you must make starts over0.75/3
“The 40% Consistency Percentage resets after each payout.”“To be eligible for a payout, you must reach a minimum Profit Goal during each payout cycle. This profit goal resets to $0 after each approved payout.”The floor is not the only thing a withdrawal moves, and the rest of it is never on the same page. Position size, the consistency rule and the share you are paid all reset or shift at some firms, and a trader who checked only the drawdown finds out afterwards.
What breaking the consistency rule costsit delays the payoutno change2.10/3
“However, if your largest day had exceeded 60% of your account profit, you would need to continue trading until your largest day is 60% or less.”“In LucidBlack funded accounts you must have Consistency Percentage of 40% or less to be eligible for a payout.”Weighted by what it costs, not by existing: reading plan by plan, no consistency rule ever closed an account — they postponed the withdrawal.
Most one withdrawal can pay you3.0% of the account, at worst1/2
“Account Size Standard Payout Maximum $25,000 $750 $50,000 $1,500 $100,000 $2,000”$2,000 is generous on a $25K account and a joke on a $200K one, so it is measured as a share and at the worst size sold.
Does that cap rise with the accountThey state there is none.2/2
“Account Size Standard Payout Maximum $25,000 $750 $50,000 $1,500 $100,000 $2,000”Profit required before the first request6%0.70/1
“Account Size Profit Goal $25,000 $1,500 $50,000 $3,000 $100,000 $4,500”How much you have to make before you can touch anything.
Below 60% read we publish no number at all, because a grade computed from two facts out of six is not a lenient grade — it is a different measurement wearing the same label.
Days before you can ask for money · Withdrawals before the account ends · Can it refuse without giving a reason · Fee charged to pay you
How you may trade
Can you trade the way you actually trade — around the news, over the weekend, at the size and speed you use?
Mandatory stop-lossThey do not say.no change—
we read the page that should answer this and it does not
we read the page that should answer this and it does not
Minimum time a trade must be heldThey do not say.no change—
we read the page that should answer this and it does not
we read the page that should answer this and it does not
Forced close before the weekendnothing may stay open over the weekendno change—
“All positions must be closed by 4:45 PM EST, Monday through Friday”LeverageNo such thing in this plan.no change—
“Account Size Profit Target Max Loss Limit Consistency % Max Size $25,000 $1,250 $1,000 60% 2 mini or 20 micros $50,000 $3,000 $2,000 60% 4 mini or 40 micros $100,000 $6000 $3,000 60% 6 mini or 60 micros”“Account Size Max Loss Limit Consistency % Scaling Plan Max Size $25,000 $1,000 40% Yes 2 mini or 20 micros $50,000 $2,000 40% Yes 4 mini or 40 micros $100,000 $3,000 40% Yes 6 mini or 60 micros”Limit on position size2no change—
“Account Size Profit Target Max Loss Limit Consistency % Max Size $25,000 $1,250 $1,000 60% 2 mini or 20 micros $50,000 $3,000 $2,000 60% 4 mini or 40 micros $100,000 $6000 $3,000 60% 6 mini or 60 micros”“Account Size Max Loss Limit Consistency % Scaling Plan Max Size $25,000 $1,000 40% Yes 2 mini or 20 micros $50,000 $2,000 40% Yes 4 mini or 40 micros $100,000 $3,000 40% Yes 6 mini or 60 micros”No score here, on purpose. The six axes above ask whether the firm can take your money or refuse to pay it. These rules ask something else — whether you can trade your way — and the right weight depends on who is reading: a minimum holding time decides the account for a scalper and is invisible to anyone else, while the weekend rule is the reverse. A single number would be wrong for half of you, and would look decided. The firm’s own sentences are here; the judgement is yours.
How it grows
What makes the account get bigger, how big it can get, and whether the path ends at a real market or at a larger simulation.
What makes the account growprofit—
“The scaling plan controls how much of your max size is available to trade based on the simulated profits in your account. As your simulated profits increase and decrease, your max tradable contract size moves up and down based.”How large it can getNo such thing in this plan.—
“The scaling plan controls how much of your max size is available to trade based on the simulated profits in your account. As your simulated profits increase and decrease, your max tradable contract size moves up and down based.”Where the path endsat a real market—
“The LucidBlack funded account is a simulated account where traders build simulated capital to earn payouts and potentially be moved to live markets.”One of these questions is scored and it is not here. “Does the cap rise with the account” sits on the cash axis, next to the cap itself, because it has a right answer: a bigger account that pays the same cheque has handed you a larger number and the same money. The three below are different. A two-million ceiling is the whole point of the product for one reader and irrelevant to someone who wants one clean payout, so the firm’s sentences are here and the weight is yours.
The rules in writing
Could you read the rule before paying, and can they change it afterwards?
Where the rule that binds you is publishedin a help-centre article the contract never mentions1.20/4
“LucidFlex evaluation and funded accounts use an End-of-Day Drawdown (EOD Drawdown) system to calculate the Max Loss Limit (MLL).”If the rule that binds you lives in a help article your contract never mentions, you did not sign it.
Is the binding document datedyes2/2
“We adjusted the LucidPro funded consistency percentage from 35% to 40%. It applies only to accounts purchased or reset on or after 11/28/2025 at 3:00 PM EST.”Without a date you cannot tell whether the rule you read is the rule they apply.
Two official pages that disagree
the payout terms · costs money
“Traders may take up to 5 payouts from each LucidFlex account after which they will be moved live.”“Payout 5 represents the maximum payout level, not a guaranteed minimum for live eligibility. All live transitions occur at the discretion of the Lucid risk team.”the fees · costs money
“Account Size Tier 1 (0–4 blown) Tier 2 (5–8 blown) Tier 3 (9–12 blown) Tier 4 (13+ blown) $25,000 $110 $130 $155 $175 $50,000 $180 $215 $250 $290 $100,000 $270 $325 $380 $430 $150,000 $425 $510 $595 $680”“{"id":3162456,"name":"LucidMaxx 25K NT\/TDV","prices":{"price":"18500","regular_price":"18500","sale_price":"18500","price_range":null,"currency_code":"USD","currency_symbol":"quot;,"currency_minor_unit":2”Can it change the rules without notice
The company behind it
If it goes wrong, which company do you claim against, and under whose laws?
The company you contract withLucid Trading Group LLC4/4
“These terms of use are entered into by and between you and Lucid Trading Group LLC”With no named company there is nobody to sue.
Where it is registeredDelaware, United States2/2
“shall be governed by and construed in accordance with the internal laws of the State of Delaware”A claim in the Czech Republic and a claim in St Vincent are not the same claim.
Its registration numberThey do not say.0/2
we read the page that should answer this and it does not
What turns a name into something checkable in a public register.
Almost no firm here has a financial regulator, because selling simulated evaluations is not a regulated activity anywhere. Of the 114 firms we scored by hand, 96 sat in the bottom two rungs of backing for this reason. So we do not count it against anyone — it only adds when a firm genuinely has one.
That company owns the brand · The people behind it are named
The market
Do your orders reach a market, or is all of it a simulation?
What the funded account issimulated, with a published route to a live stage2/4
“The LucidFlex funded account is a simulated futures trading account where traders build capital to earn payouts and potentially be moved to live markets.”The question that separates a firm that earns when you lose from one that earns when you last.
Conditions to reach a real marketpublished2/2
“Number of requests per account: Traders may take up to 5 payouts from each LucidFlex account after which they will be moved live.”Promising a route to a real market without publishing the conditions is promising nothing.
Almost none names a broker or a clearing house either, and that follows from the account being a simulation rather than being a second, separate failing. Charging for both would count one fact twice.
We read the rules of every plan it sells and issued a verdict on each one.